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标题: 云山雾罩458，千呼万唤始出来！！！（33页起听感陆续奉上） [打印本页]

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-18 21:40
标题: 云山雾罩458，千呼万唤始出来！！！（33页起听感陆续奉上）
本帖最后由狗儿念经于 2011-11-15 01:31 编辑

如题！去年四月交定金下单，至今整整一年半！长舒一口气！

全中国第一套，是中国大区，包括港澳台在内第一套，全亚洲（日、韩各一套）总共三套，被俺拿下了！多少有些飘然和自豪！

两个大家伙已在路上，估计本周末能够收到。届时，有兴趣来分享一下的极品上的诸位朋友，念经我恭迎大驾！！！

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作者: xuchuan011 时间: 2011-10-18 21:44
牛太牛了！

作者: ywhu 时间: 2011-10-18 21:45
恭喜楼主，到货请及时写下听感

作者: shinelb 时间: 2011-10-18 21:47
为国争光啊。

作者: scfan 时间: 2011-10-18 21:48
牛啊！

作者: 发烧小猪 时间: 2011-10-18 21:48
达萧以前的后级才100W（8欧），推很多落地箱没力，低频出不来。现在终于出了450W（8欧）的后级了，记得国外这对牛机好像是定价13万5千美金。恭喜楼主，期待楼主早日上听音报告！

作者: guhelim 时间: 2011-10-18 21:49
第一时间上听感；看看搞得动卡玛的大旗舰 dynaudio 大证据还有威信的亚历山大

作者: sm163 时间: 2011-10-18 21:55
这才是极品

作者: guhelim 时间: 2011-10-18 21:59
能不能借大家试玩下；大家出运费

作者: rock 时间: 2011-10-18 22:00
牛机啊! 以dartzeel的450瓦,推动市面上99%的喇叭都没问题...

作者: 余粮 时间: 2011-10-18 22:13
恭喜，我迟早把她取回家，这个有配新的前级吗？

作者: djtjdjtj 时间: 2011-10-18 22:13
订货周期媲美轮船

作者: 发烧小猪 时间: 2011-10-18 22:15
我觉得，如果谁能上到高文Telos 5000单声道后级的话，就可以打败这对Dartzeel旗舰！

作者: 发烧小猪 时间: 2011-10-18 22:23

恭喜，我迟早把她取回家，这个有配新的前级吗？
余粮发表于 2011-10-18 22:13

前级没听说有新的出来，应该还是darTZeel NHB-18NS。

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-18 22:27
说说俺这一年半来心急火燎的种种缘由也许很有意思，侧面也多少能反映出darTZeel那令人恼火的牛劲！

这对大家伙是俺极力推荐给好朋友的，这家伙基本没考虑，第一时间就给了订金，使我能赶在美国佬、小鬼子之后经由总代理别超之手，全世界第三个跟darTZeel厂房下了单！

当初别超方面说至多三个月甚至更快东西就能交到手上，呵呵，没想到三个月之后却一点音讯也没。催请代理电邮跟厂方沟通，对方答复的结果有些尴尬：原来，darTZeel外壳所用铝合金并非一般的铝合金，这种铝合金全世界似乎就比利时、德国那么一两间公司出品生产，是一种含有稀有金属成分在内的铝合金，其强度是普通铝合金的好几倍（老实说，我确实有些怀疑？）。几年前darTZeel厂方所采购的一批铝合金，待到要生产458时已经不够数量，关键是老的存货已经加工成半成品，厚度不足以达到458的30mm的设计规格厚度，不得已，厂方只好重新订购。

darTZeel跟比利时公司下订，得到的答复：必须一次采购6吨才供应！呵呵，头大了！说穿了darTZeel就是一手工作坊概念，6吨是个啥概念？相信不用我在此罗嗦了！

无奈！怎么办？换材料？别超说美国总代理那边就有这意思，也跟Deletraz本人沟通过，这家伙说，如果那样的话，我愿意退订金，啥时候找到第二家供应商，啥时候再生产！

Deletraz确实牛皮哄哄，就这材料一等又是两三个月，其间念经我那个急啊！真有热锅上的蚂蚁那感觉！去年八月港展，朋友跟我一块去的，得到的答复模棱两可，谁也不敢拍胸脯保证啥时间能交货！别超Z Sir麻着胆子说大概11月底能搞定！呵呵，等吧！

11月底了，电话过去，没门！再次头大！说Deletraz先生的电邮，每一封都像一篇散文，洋洋洒洒数千字，文笔优美流畅，说穿了就是解释如此这般的缘由！这次的理由之一：瑞士电镀的机身外壳色彩初看很优秀，可拿到太阳光下，发现有几乎不可察觉的色差？！窝草！这也太吹毛求疵了吧？试想，这东西即使交到客户手上，谁会将一百万的贵重奢侈品拿到太阳下去暴晒呢？我估计是Deletraz本人看着不得劲，越看越不得劲！于是乎推倒重来！

春节前后，别超来电话了：好消息！重新在德国一间牛厂采用先进的阳极电镀工艺加工的458外壳已经完全达到Deletraz极为苛刻挑剔的眼光的检验，可以开始正式装嵌了！坏消息！依订金交付的先后顺序，美国佬第一，小鬼子第二，我第三，韩国人第四，有没有第五（四国之外来自另外国家的订单）俺不知道。不过，这坏消息怎么也没辙，游戏规则如此！

事情还没完，待俺歇口气继续闲扯！

作者: 尘客 时间: 2011-10-18 22:31
俺要上试听第一场...

作者: ydsd88 时间: 2011-10-18 22:35
牛人一个！

作者: sm163 时间: 2011-10-18 22:47
呵呵！听讲

作者: 灵岩散人 时间: 2011-10-18 22:48
真正的极品人生。呵呵

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-18 22:55
本帖最后由狗儿念经于 2011-10-19 00:41 编辑

我估计，工厂按照瑞士佬的优越福利标准（绝不可能加班加点，该休息照样休息，管它全世界谁谁谁等得心急火燎！），一个月组装一对成品应该没问题吧？掐指一算，五六月左右，我这台应该交货了吧？

没想到，五月底，Z Sir又来电话了，一听“坏消息”三字，我都麻木了：458自前年CES展亮相以来，原型机一直采用darTZeel独有的BNC连接方式开声，到这生产的当口了，才发现如果采用XLR连接，会有些微噪声，而且是精密仪器才能检测到的噪声，这意思就是人而不可闻了。所以嘛，咱又得等了，等到伟大的Deletraz先生针对症结所在设计出全新的出局部电路，经实践检验好声，更好声以后才能进入下一轮的“正式开工”阶段！晕死！

好在这是最后的症结了，今年八月港展，欣闻第一套东西已经交付美国佬，正在组装的小鬼子的一套已近尾声测试阶段，接下去。。。。。。至到今天，我才大概送了口气！而这时，458即将绽放出的令全世界顶级发烧友豪客为之惊艳的美声的说辞，已经在darTZeel的官网首页上足足待了三四个月了！

如今，这对稀罕宝贝快要回来了，我倒有些忐忑了，她真的会让我们为之惊艳吗？拭目以待吧！赶明儿，我合计着挖挖耳朵去。

作者: 明月照大江 时间: 2011-10-18 23:13

我觉得，如果谁能上到的话，就可以打败这对Dartzeel旗舰！
发烧小猪发表于 2011-10-18 22:15

高文Telos 5000单声道后级
香港代理130万一分不降上海有人水了一对 98万大元呀

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-18 23:14
今天，darTZeel NHB-458的原厂英文说明书发给俺了（包装里没有说明书），现第一时间贴出来供极品好友们先睹为快！念经的英文水准根本不足为外人道，惭愧得紧！所以，顺便的，俺也诚恳地在此恳请专业英文老到的朋友们能帮忙翻译一下，一来来能满足本人的需要（这对大家伙，我跟诸位一样，了解基本为零），二来也算是为这坛子上众兄弟们行个方便，咱好共同学习分享！念经在此万分致谢先！

我先上PDF文档截图，后再将说明书可编辑文字粘贴上来。

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作者: 明月照大江 时间: 2011-10-18 23:17
羡慕中机器到了您那里会停几天呀还是直接就到您朋友那里了要是能在您那停几天真想飞过去一睹芳容呀

作者: 远视眼 时间: 2011-10-18 23:20
看来我要请假去成都...........

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-18 23:22

羡慕中机器到了您那里会停几天呀还是直接就到您朋友那里了要是能在您那停几天真想飞过去一睹芳容呀
明月照大江发表于 2011-10-18 23:17

明月兄，会在我这儿先煲个十天半月的！好东西不能立马藏之闺阁，要大家分享！过两天我会定出品鉴日程安排来。欢迎您来。

作者: 明月照大江 时间: 2011-10-18 23:23

同去同去

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-18 23:24
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作者: luclark 时间: 2011-10-18 23:29
不知Dartzeel什么时候可以更新一下NHB-18NS前级？都出来好几年了。不知念经兄是用什么前级搭配NHB-458? 期待着Dartzeel NHB-18NS +NHB-458与JMF PRS 1.5 reference pre-amplifier+HQS9001 ultimate reference mono power amplifier的对诀！

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-18 23:30

不知Dartzeel什么时候可以更新一下NHB-18NS前级？都出来好几年了。不知念经兄是用什么前级搭配NHB-458? 期 ...
luclark 发表于 2011-10-18 23:29

当然是西装一套了！

作者: 明月照大江 时间: 2011-10-18 23:34
到时候一定要去呀错过了以后不知道什么时候才能见到了

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-18 23:36
NHB-458 Monoblock Amplifier

User Manual

Table of contents

1. Preliminary notes _______________________________________________________ 5
2. Introduction ___________________________________________________________ 5
3. Brief description ________________________________________________________ 5
4. Warranty ______________________________________________________________ 6
5. Installation ____________________________________________________________ 6
5.1. Unpacking _______________________________________________________________________ 6
5.2. Location ________________________________________________________________________ 7
5.3. Connections ______________________________________________________________________ 7
6. The NHB-458 in detail ___________________________________________________ 8
6.1. Front panel ______________________________________________________________________ 8
6.2. Rear panel _______________________________________________________________________ 8
6.2.1 Fuse and voltage settings __________________________________________________________ 9
6.3. Remote control ___________________________________________________________________ 9
7. Activation key procedure ________________________________________________ 10
8. User parameters _______________________________________________________ 10
8.1. Main features ____________________________________________________________________ 10
9. How to set everything ___________________________________________________ 10
9.1. Power-on sequence _______________________________________________________________ 11
10. Full configuration and settings ___________________________________________ 11
11. Some advice and tips ________________________________ Erreur ! Signet non défini.
11.1. Cleaning and upkeep _______________________________________ Erreur ! Signet non défini.
11.2. What not to do ____________________________________________ Erreur ! Signet non défini.
12. Assistance _________________________________________ Erreur ! Signet non défini.
13. Technical data _____________________________________ Erreur ! Signet non défini.

darTZeel NHB-458 monoblock amplifiers
User Manual

1. Preliminary notes
The NHB-458 cannot be user switched from a
different voltage setting than the one set at factory.
This is an operation that only your authorized dealer
can perform. Any attempt in changing voltage
setting will void the warranty.
Be sure that your AC wall voltage corresponds with
NHB-458s’ factory settings.
Your NHB-458 pair comes with a USB activation
key to provide the required identification data to
your NHB-458‘s internal CPU.
Usually, both monoblocks come already activated to
your name. If it would not be the case, you could use
the provided USB keys in order to program en
eventually unlock them. In such a case please
contact your authorized dealer.
Please refer to chapter 7, “Activation key
procedure” (page 9), for how to obtain your USB
activation-key data file.
Please read this user manual in its entirety.
As it is the darTZeel rule, we did our best to avoid
making you fall asleep. We hope to be successful in
that regard…
While already being pretty impressive out of the
box, your NHB-458 will require about 170 hours of
playing time before it approaches its full potential.

2. Introduction
Congratulations on your purchase of a darTZeel
NHB-458 monoblock pair.
The darTZeel NHB-458 is the most advanced
analogue monoblock amplifier yet designed.
Grace, Delicacy and Power are the words which
describe these musical machines the best.
The NHB-458 is the culmination, in terms of power
amplification, of more than 30 years of true love and
dedication to music reproduction.
Not only NHB-458s do joyfully distillate the
slightest “pianissimi” with unbelievable realism,
they also transport you into the heart of the musical
event, effortlessly reproducing the loudest
“fortissimo” without any kind of limitation but your
hearing threshold of pain.
Designed for uncompromising musical and
emotional performance, the NHB-458 will
nevertheless give its best when paired with the
darTZeel NHB-18NS, the only preamplifier in the
world using true 50-ohm matched impedance links
as well as the unique and ultimate analog optical
“zero contact” volume control signal path.
With its fluorescent display, you will have an easy
and comprehensive access to the various operational
menus.
With its very conservative ratings, the NHB-458 is
comparable to a never ending energy reservoir.
Bench tested at half a kilowatt under 8 ohms in
continuous mode, it can deliver twice this power
when playing music, and even much more than this
when using 4-ohm speakers.
So, please be careful when you will start to tame
these beasts. A single vinyl crackle can peaks at
more than 300-400 watts because of the
unprecedented speed and dynamics available.
Otorhinolaryngology medical consultation is not
included in the purchase price, so allow for your
hearing some time to adapt.

3. Brief description
Your NHB-458s are the result of all the research
and development we have brought to the audio
industry over the past decades.
Our passion and love for music and its reproduction
have been embodied in the NHB-458s.
The challenging goals we set for ourselves were to
design and then build a power amplifier with no
sound either built quality compromises.
You are among the very few owning a very unique
design, and we at darTZeel are very proud to share
this experience with you.
The entirely newly-developed audio circuits will
drive any real-world load in a breeze, transforming
your loudspeakers into a new window open to the
music, anyhow they previously sounded so far.
With the NHB-458s’ more than 450 watts RMS into
8 ohms, and 750 watts RMS into 4 ohms, even low-

sensitivity speakers will put out plenty of volume
during your most demanding – dynamically
speaking – listening sessions. When it comes to
music reproduction, power is not needed in a
sustained way; then enters the phenomenal dynamic
power reserve.
Thanks to the huge 750 joules of energy available
from the enormous capacitor reservoir, short but
repetitive peaks in excess of 1 kW – yes, more than
1,000 watts – are delivered in a very clean way, and
much faster than the time of an eye blink – here we
mean a standard, human eye…
From the technical point of view, there is no doubt
that the NHB-458 is a very special machine. Every
single part was carefully selected, from the first
resistor to the last power output transistor.
Adding to the beauty, in those “green” days, we are
proud to say the NHB-458 actually runs very cool,
saving on your electrical bill.
Needless to say those extraordinary performances
deserve an equivalent outstanding dressing. We use
our own aluminum alloy, made from custom made
extrusion forms, and then both finishing and
anodizing are performed by real artwork craftsmen.
When assembly time comes, our dedicated crew
lovely assembles every module day after day until
final completion; then our assembly chief engineer
carefully looks for irreproachable making before
bringing the NHB-458 onto the final 3-days bench
test.
This is why you waited so long in getting your
darTZeel NHB-458 monoblock power amplifiers.
Not that we like to make our esteemed customers
waiting for months but simply because love is also
lot of pain and efforts to cope with, needing time to
smooth everything down.
We are indeed very proud to say that our “Never
Heard Before” motto plenty takes place when one
talks about NHB-458 monoblock power amplifiers.
As for the most important thing you can ask for, and
we obviously mean the music, you will simply find
them… Enthralling.
4. Warranty
Your NHB-458s are guaranteed for one full year (parts
and labor), against any breakdown or component
failure, as is the tradition in Switzerland for such
equipment.
As we view it, any electrical component with no
moving parts either will fail within days, or will last
virtually “forever.”
This is the reason all our machines are thoroughly
tested and broken in, before being lovingly packed
and sent on to you.
We are nonetheless aware that no component is
always flawless, and that a problem could arise after
the expiration of the warranty period.
In such a case, we will carefully examine all the
circumstances, with the aim of reducing the likely
repair costs to minimum levels.
You can always trust us for customer care, as you
already trusted us when purchasing your NHB-458s.
The warranty is valid in the original country of
purchase only.
The warranty is transferable to a single second-hand
user within the first year, but only in the original
country of purchase.
5. Installation
5.1. Unpacking
Your NHB-458s are delivered in an industrial
wooden crate. We understand this is the less
appealing part of the package; however it is the only
way we found to safely ship your 70 kg/each
emotional music reproducers.
Hopefully you will not have to bother unpacking the
darTZeel NHB-458 monoblock power amplifiers;
your authorized dealer will be very happy doing this
for you, taking a chance to admire them while
installing. A separate sheet is nevertheless provided
in order to explain how to proceed, in case you
would secretly want to install your machines by
yourself, during a dark, moonless night.
Please note that in case of future shipping, the
original crate must be used if you want to avoid any
possible damage.
Do no forget securing the power supply suspension
screws before shipping. Any shipping damage will
not be covered by the warranty if blocking screws
are not installed.
The wooden crates should contain:
. Two NHB-458 monoblocks amplifiers
. Two USB keys
. Eight golden plated screws
. Eight suspension securing screws
. Two AC power cables
. This user manual

5.2. Location
There is one “Left” and one “Right” machine.
You can check this on rear panel, looking to the
RCA input: Left amplifier has its RCA outer ring
WHITE colored, and the Right amplifier has its
RCA outer ring RED colored.
Technically there is no difference between Left and
Right machines, but as you will connect them from a
stereo preamplifier which well has left and right
outputs, why not following the rule until the end, for
once…?
Left and Right identification is also displayed when
hitting the NAME key from the front panel. But as
this function is only available when you will power
your darTZeel NHB-458 monoblock amplifiers,
knowing this when locating them may help you.
Anyway if would have reversed them, you could
always claim to your friends that you chose L and R
as if you were on the stage.
Do NOT remove blocking suspension screws until
your machines will be definitively located. Moving
the NHB-458 will induce some power supply
oscillation; in case of mechanical shock, internal
anodized parts could be damaged.
Before making any connection, you should carefully
plan the location where you will install your gear.
Best place is just next to each loudspeaker. Doing so
will help to minimize speaker cable length; when
connecting your NHB-458s to a darTZeel NHB-18NS
preamplifier, we strongly recommend using our
darT to Zeel 50-ohm links which will not only
allow for ultimate performance level but also having
the preamplifier – and the rest of the installation –
located as far as needed, without any sound quality
loss.
We do NOT recommend installing the NHB-458s in
any furniture, unless you are healthy enough to play
with 70 kg at arm’s length.
Therefore, please be forewarned that the NHB-458
will stop playing if it becomes too hot. This is not a
situation which should ever occur under normal
listening operation, though.
Thermal protection will shut down your NHB-458s
at approximately 70°C (158°F). The power supply
will start up again when the operating temperature
will have dropped to 60°C (140°F).
It is also advisable, where possible, to leave enough
space around your NHB-458 to allow easy access
when making or changing connections.
5.3. Connections
Be sure that your AC wall voltage corresponds with
NHB-458s’ factory settings.
CAUTION!
Never, ever proceed to ANY connection /
disconnection before NHB-458s have been
powered off by at least 2 minutes!
Internal capacitor bank stores a lot of energy, and
any wrong manipulation and / or short could
possibly lead in a catastrophic failure by avalanche
breakdown.
Be sure that there is no short between speaker wires!
Warranty will be void if the above is not respected.
As internal supplies are ± 100 volts DC, we anyway
strongly recommend not playing with the rear panel
when the machine is ON. Those are lethal voltages,
so better not risking a shock – even if non-lethal in
most of cases – by playing with wires when the
NHB-458s are not switched OFF.
Apart from these – we hope so – scaring enough
indications, we want to reassure you in the way that
once your amplifiers will be properly connected, you
will have ones of the safest machines ever designed
in front of you.
Take your time when making all connections, check
them twice if needed. Here again, we think that
asking your authorized dealer for proceeding will be
a good idea.
Speaker binding posts are from CardasTM . We chose
this kind of binding posts because they allow for
very big spades, greatly help in avoiding – most of
cases – unwanted shorts, and they are the only ones
which can be well tightened up without being lose
over time. Thank you CardasTM!
When properly tightened, these connectors are
pretty reliable and well keep the pressure on spades.
Never use pliers to tighten, only do it by hand, the
provided external rubber is very helpful to just
tighten as firmly as needed without going mad.
In the case you would prefer banana plugs – which
also have our favor – ask your authorized dealer for
supplying a Spade-to-Banana adapter. We did not
chose 5-way/Banana binding posts for the NHB-458
because of quite high current and voltage involved.
As soon as the NHB-458 is plugged into the AC
wall outlet, its operation-status LED will turn red.
There is no master hardware (physical) on/off
switch. We hope you nevertheless will sleep well,
knowing that the NHB-458’s electrical-power
consumption in standby mode is less than 5 watts for
the pair.

6. The NHB-458 in detail

6.1. Front panel

Hereunder functions are for direct keying.
Full key operational functions using the Menu Control
Panel are described in chapter 10.

1. Power Switch
When powered OFF (Stand By):
L Status Led is RED.
When powered ON:
L Status Led is AMBER.
2. Menu Key
This key gives access to all user parameters
described later in chapter 10
3. Upper Display Reading
When depressed twice and more, upper reading will
change from RMS, Peak, PeakHOLD, etc.
4. Lower Display Reading
When depressed twice and more, upper reading will
change from RMS, Peak, PeakHOLD, etc.
5. Name
When depressed twice, owner name with serial
number is displayed for about 10 seconds; another
hit will display the owner name continuously.
Depressing once again will display the darTZeel
logo continuously. A last pressing and the display
will resume to standard readings.
6. Display Illumination
When hit twice, AUTO DIM will be activated, meaning that after a predefined time, the display will shut off.
Depressing twice again and the AUTO DIM will be disabled.
The defined time after the display shuts off can be set via the Menu Control Panel; see chapter 10.
7. Menu Related Key
This key has no operational function when hit but only activates the direct key access display, as it is the case
for all other 3 to 6 keys.

6.2. Rear panel

We think the rear panel labeling speaks for itself.
Nevertheless, we will try to keep you awake, by providing
some general information… .
Please note that only one input can be used at the
same time. All inputs are connected in parallel, so
connecting more than one input at a time will
dramatically reduce sound performance.
As you will see, 2 “Power on triggers” are provided.
They are intended for remotely power the amplifiers
ON when using a darTZeel NHB-18NS preamplifier.
These triggers are NOT standard 3.5mm audio jacks,
but signal oriented, professional Neutrik sockets.
Please ask your dealer if you want to use this feature.
As mentioned earlier, your darTZeel NHB-458
monoblocks amplifiers should already be programmed
for you, and activation would not be needed; Anyway,
you will note that we provide one USB port on the
lower left corner. This is the one into which you will
insert your USB key if further registering will be
required, or when a firmware update becomes available.
For whatever reason, if your machines would not have
been factory activated, please immediately ask your
dealer in order to obtain your registration key.
When you register your NHB-458, you will need to
insert your USB key into the rear panel’s USB port.
Please carefully read the chapter 7, “Activation key
procedure”, next page.

!!! YOUR MACHINE WILL OPERATE
FOR ONLY 15 MINUTES IF NOT PROPERLY
ACTIVATED !!!

6.2.1 Fuse and voltage settings
The voltage of your NHB-458s has been factory set.
Be sure that your AC wall voltage corresponds with
NHB-458s’ factory settings.
From 100 to 125 volts AC, the rear breaker is
indicated 16A.
From 200 to 250 volts AC, the rear breaker is
indicated 8A.
There is no any fuse to replace. The thermal breaker
is only intended to protect the machine and your
installation against catastrophic failure. No Fuse,
Better Sound!
Operating voltage cannot be user altered for
technical and obvious safety reasons – remember the
± 100 volts DC internal supplies and the huge
energy provided by the capacitor bank. No any
“switch” could handle those high current/voltage.
So, if you move to another country, you may have to
change the voltage setting. Please contact your dealer.
In this case, a new activation code will be required.
!!! Warning !!!
Any attempt to alter voltage setting will void the
warranty. Always ask your dealer for such an
eventual change.

7. Activation key procedure
In case your darTZeel NHB-458 monoblock
amplifiers would not have been factory activated,
they will operate only for the 15 minutes following
each new powering on.
Please contact your dealer for remediate to this very
deploring situation in order to quickly activate your
machines.
Registration procedure:
We provide a USB activation key with each of your
NHB-458s. This keys are blank when you receive
them.
Ask your dealer to send you your activation-key data
files.
Please note that you will need both a “Left” and a
“Right” activation keys. You can know if which
machine is “Left” or “Right” by depressing the
“Name” key from the front panel, The serial number
ends either with an “L” or a “R”. Activation keys are
not interchangeable from Left to Right.
You will receive those by email in the form of a
zipped (data-compressed) folder containing a file
with a “dtz” name extension. If possible, use a PC
WindowsTM based computer when unzipping the
files; sometimes MACTM based computers could
corrupt the files and activation will not work.
How to proceed:
1. Unzip (decompress) the key-activation
software from the zip folder. Directly copy
the “dtz” file onto the USB key, using your
home computer. DO NOT ALTER THE
FILE NAME!
2. Insert the “loaded” USB key into the USB
port located in the rear panel of your
NHB-458.
3. From the front panel, sequentially press the
following: Menu . Diag . DTZ.
4. The file will be uploaded.
5. Remove the USB key.

At registration-inquiry time, please note that your
owner name cannot exceed 14 characters
maximum in length. So, please use “J.D. Smith”
instead of “Jonathan Donald Smith”… .

8. User parameters
The section starting at chapter 10 is the most
important part of this user manual.
Thanks to the intuitive menus, you will be able to
access all parameters directly from the front panel.

8.1. Main features
From the Menu Control Panel, you can, from other
things, adjust the following:
. Input . RCA OR ZEEL OR XLR. Factory
setting is ZEEL. Remember you cannot
connect multiple inputs at the same time.
. Output gain . 26dB or 32dB. Factory
setting is 32 dB.
. Power ON mode . Music, Trigger, or
Manual (trigger OFF)
. Display intensity . 25%, 50%, 75% or
100%. Factory setting is 25%. Please note
that using 100% all the time will reduce the
display span life.

9. How to set everything
The following pages show how to fully set up your
NHB-458s, by mean of schematic flow charts.
We reproduce most of display screens and explain
how to proceed, as if you were in front of your
machine.
Important note
In all Menu levels, depressing the “OK” key will
confirm the level you are in, and then you will be
able to alter settings. When not pressing “OK” first,
using arrows will make you navigate into another
Menu level.
Maybe trivial for your skill but nevertheless useful
to know…

darTZeel NHB-458
This machine, number
TZ-UA1458.001L
Was built for
User Manual

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darTZeel NHB-458
This machine, number
TZ-UA1458.001L
Was built for
User Manual

NHB-458

9.1. Power on sequence
Here is what you will see on the display screen when powering the darTZeel NHB-458 on:

9.2. Direct Key Access
When hitting any key from 3 to 7, the display will show the hereunder direct access keys:

1. Power Switch
L. Status LED
2. Menu Key

3 4 5 6 7
If you press D1, upper readings will change as follows at each pressing:

If you press D2, lower readings will change the same way D1did.
Explanation: WRMS means Root Mean Square, corresponding to the actual power dissipated in a pure resistor.
WPEAK is the peak power value; usually it corresponds to twice the sinus figure. However here we
prefer displaying the “Instantaneous RMS power”, which better corresponds to human hearing
perceived loudness.
WPEAK is the “Peak & Hold” value; here the reading keeps the highest value measured as long as
another mode is chosen. This is a practical way to measure the loudest part of a music song.

If you press NAME, readings will display the followings after each pressing:

If pressed once, lasts for about 10 seconds
If pressed twice, name display freezes Pressing name a third time

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-18 23:38

到时候一定要去呀错过了以后不知道什么时候才能见到了
明月照大江发表于 2011-10-18 23:34

俺争取专门安排一场给极品上的朋友们，也许到时候叫上尘客兄、小黑兄，我们三人坐东再请诸位搓一顿，把酒话烧经！

作者: LCL123 时间: 2011-10-18 23:47
恭喜极品进驻！

作者: ivanqian 时间: 2011-10-18 23:56

恭喜恭喜，厉害厉害，眼红的份了

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 00:34

第一时间上听感；看看搞得动卡玛的大旗舰 dynaudio 大证据还有威信的亚历山大
guhelim 发表于 2011-10-18 21:49

我拿它来搞搞B&W 801D！

作者: Jeep4.0 时间: 2011-10-19 00:40
替念经兄发张第四套的现状图，哈哈！[attach]36747[/attach]

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 00:48

替念经兄发张第四套的现状图，哈哈！
Jeep4.0 发表于 2011-10-19 00:40

司兄牛逼！哪儿找到的图片啊？官网？

作者: guhelim 时间: 2011-10-19 01:06
801太浪费458了

作者: guhelim 时间: 2011-10-19 01:09
分解图很帅哈啊哈哈哈

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 01:14

801太浪费458了
guhelim 发表于 2011-10-19 01:06

这还用说，但我要有更豪奢的家伙来搭啊？至少也得像这458英国路演时驾驭Magio Q5那样啊！可惜现在只有这样，801D、800Diamond，好在可以考验考验458怎么驱动801D那对15寸单元。

作者: Jeep4.0 时间: 2011-10-19 01:19
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日本代理商的主页上的。
http://naspecaudio.com/dartzeel/nhb-458/

作者: 李探花 时间: 2011-10-19 01:20
抢银行要抢几次才行。

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 01:25
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日本代理商的主页上的。
Jeep4.0 发表于 2011-10-19 01:19

哦，我猜也是，这也只有你老兄才能找到！顺便借侧面图一用，看上去相当牛，相当威风！

[attach]36748[/attach]

作者: Jeep4.0 时间: 2011-10-19 01:28
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日本yahoo上关于darTZeel 458的消息也挺多。但到现在还没有看到有关于听感上的消息，也就是说，也还没到？
http://search.yahoo.co.jp/search ... top_ga1_sa&b=11

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 01:32

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日本yahoo上关于darTZeel 458的消息也挺多。但到现在还没有看到有关于听感上的消息，也就是说，也 ...
Jeep4.0 发表于 2011-10-19 01:28

不过，别超说我这对是第三对。看来这第一听感要待俺和兄弟们来上了！

作者: 尘客 时间: 2011-10-19 01:36

俺争取专门安排一场给极品上的朋友们，也许到时候叫上尘客兄、小黑兄，我们三人坐东再请诸位搓一顿，把酒 ...
狗儿念经发表于 2011-10-18 23:38

好好好...

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 01:38

好好好...
尘客发表于 2011-10-19 01:36

呵呵，您老居然还没睡？

作者: Jeep4.0 时间: 2011-10-19 01:45
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听感。不用说也应该是这个了N H B－Never heard before了。
不过，他家的合并机却是C T H－Close to Heaven。

作者: guhelim 时间: 2011-10-19 01:49
458搞搞银彩的万神殿应该特牛

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 01:57

458搞搞银彩的万神殿应该特牛
guhelim 发表于 2011-10-19 01:49

是啊！坛上沪上一大侠有一对，可惜这俩都不可能“伊妹儿”来去，要不多好玩啊！

作者: 铭友影音 时间: 2011-10-19 03:10
一定要喝彩啊，

太热了受不了了太强悍了

作者: garywu 时间: 2011-10-19 07:07
豪门夜宴，溢光流彩。。。。。

作者: hsmm 时间: 2011-10-19 08:24
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牛太牛了！

作者: scfan 时间: 2011-10-19 08:40

是啊！坛上沪上一大侠有一对，可惜这俩都不可能“伊妹儿”来去，要不多好玩啊！
狗儿念经发表于 2011-10-19 01:57

只能期待沪上有大侠忍不住下订单了

作者: liao 时间: 2011-10-19 09:45
看了第一页就说，为极品人生争光了。居然“一般一般”——世界第三！

作者: 尘客 时间: 2011-10-19 09:56

呵呵，您老居然还没睡？
狗儿念经发表于 2011-10-19 01:38

昨晚调电脑给闹的。

不过，好像这个发卖版外观似乎与去年的预告版有小异？更张扬，而先前感觉更流畅亲和些。老头的审美是不是被自己烧到极致的理念给搅合了...？

作者: jjyfoot 时间: 2011-10-19 10:51
等念经兄确定日子，一定到成都瞻仰！

作者: BINbin 时间: 2011-10-19 10:54
om 顶到成都

作者: 清风明月 时间: 2011-10-19 11:55
听过它的合并机已经很好听了,这个不知道能好多少啊!!!有机会一定得听听啊！！恭喜兄台啊!!!

作者: xrxsxq 时间: 2011-10-19 12:09
很高兴成都商家有此盛举。希望念经老师举行盛会时能够提前通知一声，也让我开开眼界，长点见识。

我冒昧把手机号码短信给你，念经老师见谅。

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 13:04

昨晚调电脑给闹的。

不过，好像这个发卖版外观似乎与去年的预告版有小异？更张扬，而先前感觉更流畅亲 ...
尘客发表于 2011-10-19 09:56

老兄，458的初稿是这样的。

[attach]36758[/attach]

[attach]36757[/attach]

现在的量产版本以最后CES展亮相时的外观为准，自那时候到现在，这外观没变过，背部一些环节还稍有改动。以前这个外观中规中矩，大概设计师觉得保守了些吧？

[attach]36759[/attach]

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 13:08

很高兴成都商家有此盛举。希望念经老师举行盛会时能够提前通知一声，也让我开开眼界，长点见识。

我冒昧 ...
xrxsxq 发表于 2011-10-19 12:09

基本上本周末可以确定时间安排，到时我会在此发布的，欢迎兄来参与分享，在我心目中的本意完全不在商业色彩上，此举纯属分享，独乐不如乐乐是也！

作者: yfhehui 时间: 2011-10-19 13:51
阳江十八子都还没有，念经兄居然有了，真够牛的。

作者: NHB-DTZ 时间: 2011-10-19 14:16
DARTZEEL的电源如何配,有没有DX有心得？前级因是电池供电没有刻意最求，后级是用CRYSTAL 的DREAM LINE.

作者: dj_simy 时间: 2011-10-19 14:32
恭喜啊！NHB-458=Never heard before-458=“从未听过，是我吧？”呵呵。

作者: 山河 时间: 2011-10-19 14:35

基本上本周末可以确定时间安排，到时我会在此发布的，欢迎兄来参与分享，在我心目中的本意完全不在商业色 ...
狗儿念经发表于 2011-10-19 13:08

看来非得去朝圣一番不可，能朝圣神机和念经上尊，小弟今生荣幸啊！

不过，
上尊要报销来回机票才行。。。

作者: xgl890 时间: 2011-10-19 14:37

DARTZEEL的电源如何配,有没有DX有心得？前级因是电池供电没有刻意最求，后级是用CRYSTAL 的DREAM LINE.
NHB-DTZ 发表于 2011-10-19 14:16

啥意思？

作者: 聆听 时间: 2011-10-19 14:58
恭喜极品进驻！期待早日见到听感

作者: 怀旧 时间: 2011-10-19 15:58
感谢念经兄的客户，为国争光呀！
不知这位大人订458用来配什么呢？

作者: 尘客 时间: 2011-10-19 16:08

老兄，458的初稿是这样的。
现在的量产版本以最后CES展亮相时的外观为准，自那时候到现在，这外观没变过，背部一些环节还稍有改动。以前这个外观中规中矩，大概设计师觉得保守了些吧？
狗儿念经发表于 2011-10-19 13:04

不大看得惯现在这大脚，比倪萍还...

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 17:28

感谢念经兄的客户，为国争光呀！
不知这位大人订458用来配什么呢？
怀旧发表于 2011-10-19 15:58

呵呵，他的音箱其实也很不错了，只是搭458还应该再高一些。目前暂时用着世霸至尊名琴，没办法，此君就喜欢意大利的工艺，尤其是那漂亮的木纹。不过，将来肯定会给458找到更好的佳配的。

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 17:31

看来非得去朝圣一番不可，能朝圣神机和念经上尊，小弟今生荣幸啊！

...
山河发表于 2011-10-19 14:35

中间留这山河一般宽广的空白，不是让我自己填写贺礼吧？

作者: rock 时间: 2011-10-19 19:31
呼吁一下..看看哪位烧友英文水平比较好的,帮狗儿念经兄翻译一下说明书 ..

作者: guhelim 时间: 2011-10-19 19:46

呵呵，他的音箱其实也很不错了，只是搭458还应该再高一些。目前暂时用着世霸至尊名琴，没办法，此君就喜欢 ...
狗儿念经发表于 2011-10-19 17:28

世霸有新旗舰了

作者: ppr 时间: 2011-10-19 19:50
真是千呼万唤始出来啊，哦不对，还只是听见楼梯响而已。这瑞士佬够牛！

作者: LCL123 时间: 2011-10-19 21:10

呼吁一下..看看哪位烧友英文水平比较好的,帮狗儿念经兄翻译一下说明书 ..
rock 发表于 2011-10-19 19:31

在发烧友中想找精通英文的大概很难，基本最迟都属于七八时年代出生的呵呵...

作者: rock 时间: 2011-10-19 21:16

在发烧友中想找精通英文的大概很难，基本最迟都属于七八时年代出生的呵呵...
LCL123 发表于 2011-10-19 21:10

广州烧友大头虾是英语教授, 可惜他移民加拿大了...我自己英文又是半桶水...

作者: 壮士 时间: 2011-10-19 21:34
好家伙!周末能听的话得赶紧订机票咯!

作者: LCL123 时间: 2011-10-19 21:36

广州烧友大头虾是英语教授, 可惜他移民加拿大了...我自己英文又是半桶水...
rock 发表于 2011-10-19 21:16

半桶水算不错了，我们这些基本没水了，现在基本掉光了

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 21:57

呼吁一下..看看哪位烧友英文水平比较好的,帮狗儿念经兄翻译一下说明书 ..
rock 发表于 2011-10-19 19:31

是啊！还请坛上高手施以援手，一段一段来也行，这也算是一种学习交流吧？！

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 21:59

谷歌翻译的，供参考
谷用用谷歌翻译的，基本可以看懂
NHB - 458放大器用户手册

内容的表

1。 _ ...
hgl1989 发表于 2011-10-19 21:21

虽然看起来有些“幽默”，跟我用灵格斯的结果差不多，但还是要对1989兄的义举深表感谢！

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 22:00

好家伙!周末能听的话得赶紧订机票咯!
壮士发表于 2011-10-19 21:34

壮士兄，本周末肯定不行，最快也要下周末才行。你来吗？咱一起聚聚？

作者: 大力水手 时间: 2011-10-19 22:04
达肖声音不错配色太俗了~ 还是FM简洁

作者: 尘客 时间: 2011-10-19 22:05

以上用谷歌翻译的，看来基本明白，参考下吧。
古怪的是楼上不能加注"用谷歌翻译"，编辑两次都加不上。 ...
hgl1989 发表于 2011-10-19 21:25

这段还就想看明白两件事：关于爱情的传说和月黑风高夜如何下手...

作者: 壮士 时间: 2011-10-19 22:08

壮士兄，本周末肯定不行，最快也要下周末才行。你来吗？咱一起聚聚？
狗儿念经发表于 2011-10-19 22:00

心已经在成都咯,这周末有朋友参加成都的保龄球公开赛,原本打算借机随行.到时候看看.

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 22:10

心已经在成都咯,这周末有朋友参加成都的保龄球公开赛,原本打算借机随行.到时候看看.
壮士发表于 2011-10-19 22:08

不管怎样，行前给个电话，来了再说。

作者: hgl1989 时间: 2011-10-19 22:11

虽然看起来有些“幽默”，跟我用灵格斯的结果差不多，但还是要对1989兄的义举深表感谢！
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狗儿念经发表于 2011-10-19 21:59

个别词组是很搞笑，但看个基本说明还是很清楚清淅的，俺上外网也靠它了，念经老大别介意啊。

作者: 壮士 时间: 2011-10-19 22:13

不管怎样，行前给个电话，来了再说。
狗儿念经发表于 2011-10-19 22:10

一定一定

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 22:17

个别词组是很搞笑，但看个基本说明还是很清楚清淅的，俺上外网也靠它了，念经老大别介意啊。
hgl1989 发表于 2011-10-19 22:11

哈哈哈，俺一点也不介意，谢谢！

作者: hgl1989 时间: 2011-10-19 22:24

这段还就想看明白两件事：关于爱情的传说和月黑风高夜如何下手...
尘客发表于 2011-10-19 22:05

哈哈，鬼佬说那只是个传说

说明书也没有什么专业词组，只是一些操作注意事项，其实这样已很清楚地完成了，
技术参数还看不到。

作者: guhelim 时间: 2011-10-19 22:41
我要看线路图

作者: ivangogo 时间: 2011-10-19 23:13
哇，这要顶啊，我听合并机，已经毒倒一大片。这个真的要去朝拜啊！

作者: lmty 时间: 2011-10-19 23:17
好家伙，楼主这是为国争光，恭喜加祝贺！

作者: 狗儿念经 时间: 2011-10-19 23:45

好家伙，楼主这是为国争光，恭喜加祝贺！
lmty 发表于 2011-10-19 23:17

为国争光？呵呵，这俺可承受不起，俺就为自己挣了点薄面，满足了那么一点点虚荣心罢了，顺带算是可以借花献佛，与坛上兄弟们分享分享快乐而已。

作者: 山河 时间: 2011-10-20 09:28

中间留这山河一般宽广的空白，不是让我自己填写贺礼吧？
狗儿念经发表于 2011-10-19 17:31

机票一到，大好山河即刻奉上。。。

作者: 音乐爱好者 时间: 2011-10-20 09:57
不知458能否搞定落魄旗舰？

作者: xhj 时间: 2011-10-20 09:57

达肖声音不错配色太俗了~ 还是FM简洁
大力水手发表于 2011-10-19 22:04

大俗则大雅

作者: rock 时间: 2011-10-20 10:05

达肖声音不错配色太俗了~ 还是FM简洁
大力水手发表于 2011-10-19 22:04

听过它的声音,你就会喜欢它的外形配色了...

作者: sm163 时间: 2011-10-20 10:13
我觉得达肖漂亮，养眼

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