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楼主: Billchen

13#
发表于 2015-3-5 16:31:45 | 只看该作者
在新闻发佈会上,莱布雷希特向柏林爱乐提了“三个问题”:
I put three questions to the orchestra’s co-chairmen,  Peter Riegelbauer and Ulrich Knörzer as they faced the press in Berlin. Slipped Disc’s questions:
1 Can you confirm no women are being considered? If not, why not?
2 A simple majority will be enough, right? If the orch splits 62-61, is there a plan for accommodating the ‘loser’?
3 All candidates will have given prior agreement to being considered. If the first-choice candidate declines the post, will the players turn to the one with the next highest votes?

Berlin Phil replies below.
1.“The first round of the election is open to any living conductor (female or male). If the first round of election (on 11th May) will have no result, there will be a shortlist created for the second round on the basis of the results from the first round. We don’t know yet, how many people will be in this list (depends on the number of votes).”
2.“There will be 124 musicians with tenure eligible to vote. The new Artistic Director must have a clear majority in order to be considered elected. We will not announce exact figures either prior to or following the election.”
3. “The newly elected Artistic Director will be informed of her or his election immediately after the votes are counted and may then accept or decline the election. Should the person chosen decline the election, subsequent action (further voting or fixing a date for a new election) must be agreed upon in the orchestra assembly. No list of potential candidates for the position of Artistic Director (a so-called shortlist) will be drawn up before 11 May 2015, and no one will be called/asked whether she or he is available as a candidate prior to the election.”

能从这三个问题里,嗅出点什么?

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14#
发表于 2015-3-6 13:06:58 | 只看该作者
Paavo Jarvi 不知道有没有机会,现在他执掌黑森州SO(原法兰克福广播)和巴黎管弦乐团,离欧洲音乐圈子中心不远不近。

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15#
发表于 2015-3-6 13:50:05 | 只看该作者
我投蒂勒曼一票吧。西蒙拉图尔在任期间,曾致力于推广现代和当代音乐,但是柏林的听众不是很接受。可能柏林爱乐更倾向于传统和保守一点的音乐风格。蒂勒曼正合适。蒂勒曼的强项是贝多芬,勃拉姆斯和华格纳以及歌剧,他又是德国柏林人,也在很多德奥知名乐团担任过指挥和艺术总监,因此他比较有竞争力的。

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16#
发表于 2015-3-6 16:04:01 | 只看该作者
矮子里拔将军,夏伊 还算可以罢。

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夏依的曲目蛮宽,履历也够辉煌。不过他带莱比锡格万特豪斯似乎并未出彩,听过他们上海现场的马勒七,我感觉他还是适合回去带阿姆斯特丹音乐厅。  发表于 2015-3-8 11:24

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17#
发表于 2015-3-6 17:03:55 | 只看该作者
矮子里拔将军,夏伊 还算可以罢。
ypyp 发表于 2015-3-6 16:04

哈哈,非常不错的,他的舒曼交响曲很强。

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18#
发表于 2015-3-6 17:12:08 | 只看该作者
有位外国乐迷提出建议:

As far as the future is concerned, the orchestra would probably be wise to try and get Mariss Jansons for two or three years (if he has indeed indicated that he is open to it as the article suggests) as a leadership bridge before making a long term commitment. He’s stepping down from the Concertgebouw and probably won’t stay long with the Bavarian Radio either.

Hopefully his health would hold up. After that, do they want to choose someone in more of the Karajan tradition like Christian Thielemann, the razzle dazzle of Gustavo Dudamel with his DG contract (I don’t believe for a moment that Berlin isn’t what he and his managers want, despite his sweetheart deal in Los Angeles), or someone like Riccardo Chailly if they can pry him away from Leipzig in 2020 or 2021?

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葱丝老了,现在演出状态都是有一场没一场的。况且他的德奥曲目着实不算最强。  发表于 2015-3-8 11:27

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发表于 2015-3-6 18:10:43 | 只看该作者
有位外国乐迷提出建议:

As far as the future is concerned, the orchestra would probably be wise to ...
Billchen 发表于 2015-3-6 17:12


我也觉得先找个临时的这主意不错。巴伦是不是比洋葱更合适呢?

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20#
发表于 2015-3-6 18:51:29 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 ypyp 于 2015-3-6 18:53 编辑
哈哈,非常不错的,他的舒曼交响曲很强。
shinelb 发表于 2015-3-6 17:03


不仅舒曼交响曲吧,他指挥的歌剧和马勒、布鲁克纳的交响曲,在1950年代出生的一代指挥家里,都是综合素质最好者之一。想想当初卡拉扬和阿巴多看上和提携他,就了然了。

从全面性看,夏伊 比 拉特尔、踢了慢、杨松斯和杜达梅尔 要好些。


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如果真是这样的话,他就不用躲在莱比锡了。看看欧洲主流的音乐节,萨尔斯堡、拜罗伊特、琉森,哪里有他的位子?  发表于 2015-3-8 11:34

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21#
发表于 2015-3-7 15:58:10 | 只看该作者
莱布雷希特提出的第一个问题,是否有女性指挥家来竞争,听上去有点搞笑。到目前为止,确实没有这个可能。但是,莱布雷希特提出这个问题,暗指欧洲一些乐团中的性别岐视。

听听外国乐迷说的:
While I would enjoy the possibility of a female music director, I agree that I don’t see anyone on the current scene (for whatever reason) who warrants serious consideration. Of more concern to me is the lack of female musicians especially principals in this great orchestra, especially when we see that women winning competitions and graduating conservatories do so at vastly different ratios!

Woman conductor? Interesting question for the orchestra with the third lowest ratio of women in the world. Berlin has one third the number for the New York Phil, National Orchestra of France, Zurich State Opera, and London BBC. And exactly the response from Berlin one would expect…

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22#
发表于 2015-3-9 09:22:35 | 只看该作者
看看老外乐迷投谁的票。

The Berlin Philharmonic should consider Valery Gergiev as their next principal conductor. He can drop his contract with the Munich Philharmonic before it started and switch to Berliners instead. He is one of the finest conductors in the world, and a perfect match for this great orchestra. He will be the first Russian ever to lead the band. After all he has a great experience in leading the Rotterdam Philharmonic and LSO not to mention the Mariinsky. This will be a great era for the Berlin Philharmonic if they elect him

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拜托,已经害了LSO和MPhil 两家,就不要再来柏林祸害了  发表于 2015-3-9 13:18

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23#
发表于 2015-3-10 15:44:24 | 只看该作者
夏伊和姐夫是我的同龄人,故一直都非常关注着两个人。说实话对后者很失望的。夏伊还不错,他和姨母都胜在全面,而蒂勒曼实在是曲目太狭窄,尤其是我最喜欢的马勒他从不染指。从目前情况看,谁入主BPO都会是非常吃力不讨好的。

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大熊演过马勒,大概有个把次的音乐会现场,不过还未发过录音,估计效果一般吧  发表于 2015-3-10 16:20

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24#
发表于 2015-3-10 16:02:04 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 Rozinante 于 2015-3-10 16:06 编辑

scfan 发短消息 发表于 前天 11:34
如果真是这样的话,他就不用躲在莱比锡了。看看欧洲主流的音乐节,萨尔斯堡、拜罗伊特、琉森,哪里有他的位子?
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太以成败论英雄了吧?夏伊水平确实不错,只是那套贝多芬让我比较失望。别的音乐节我不知道,在琉森我可是亲眼见过他滴。

Welser-Most我感觉也是个相当全面的指挥,古典到现代都能搞,而且指挥歌剧经验丰富,就是风格不大讨巧。这次他应该没戏。

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老实说格万特豪斯落到夏依手里,水准褪色不少  发表于 2015-3-10 16:23

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