对于这两套勃拉姆斯，JWANG兄觉得哪套要好一些呢？

看了大S版的那个关于勃拉姆斯交响曲的帖子，不由得勾起了多年来困惑我的几个问题如下三张唱片据说是瓦尔特第一次录勃交，那么勃一录了没有？如有的话烦请哪位老师把图片发上来看看！另外这一录音没有立体声的吗？

瓦尔特那些事，桂猪兄是专家。

帮你查了下，这不是第一次录勃交。在这一套里，勃一也录了。应该是ML5124。这套看上去没立体声。

我的是M4S 615.



Brahms: Symphonies (Complete)
 
Brahms: Four Symphonies
(a) New York Philharmonic
1951–1953; New York
    • LP: Columbia DSL-200; Odyssey 32360007
    • CD: Sony (UK) 517187 2; United Archives UAR004.3
 
Brahms: Four Symphonies
(b) Columbia Symphony Orchestra
1959–1960; American Legion Hall
    • LP: M4L 252; Stereo: M4S 615
    • CD: CBS/Sony MK 42020–42023; Sony SMK 64470–64472
________________________________________________________________________
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 1 in C minor, Opus 68
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 1
(a) Vienna Philharmonic
May 3 & 4, 1937; [Musikvereinssaal]
    • 78: RCA Victor M 470 (12264/8); GM 288 (DB 3277/81)
    • CD: Preiser 90114; Avid Records AMSC 603; EMI (Japan) TOCE 7761-74; History 205244-303
 Brahms: Symphony No. 1
(b) NBC Symphony Orchestra 
March 18, 1939; Studio 8-H  (live broadcast)
    • CD: Serenade (Japan) SEDR-2006
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 1
(c) New York Philharmonic 
November 7, 1943, Carnegie Hall (live broadcast)
    • Source: Private collection
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 1
(d) Hollywood Bowl Orchestra 
July 10, 1947; Hollywood Bowl (live broadcast)
    • Source: Private collection
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 1
(e) New York Philharmonic
December 30, 1953; 30th Street Studio
    • LP: Columbia ML 5124; Columbia DSL-200; Philips ABR 4037 (102); Columbia (UK) GBL 5603
    • CD: Sony (Japan) SRCR 8682; Sony (France) 5081722; Sony (UK) 517187 2; United Archives UAR004.3
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 1
(f) Columbia Symphony Orchestra
November 25, 1959; American Legion Hall
    • LP: Columbia ML 5789; Columbia (UK) BRG 72088; Stereo: Columbia MS 6389; Columbia (UK) SBRG 72088 
    • CD: CBS/Sony MBK 44827; Sony SMK 64470
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Brahms: Symphony No. 2 in D major, Opus 73
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 2
(a) NBC Symphony Orchestra 
February 17, 1940; Studio 8-H (live broadcast)
    • Source: Eklipse (Japan) T-5; Serenade (Japan) SEDR-2007
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 2
(b) Philadelphia Orchestra
February 12, 1944; Academy of Music (live performance)
    • Source: Wing WCD 49
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 2
(c) Berlin Philharmonic
September 24 or 25, 1950; Titania Palast (live performance)
    • CD: AS Disc AS 309; Legend LGD 148
Brahms: Symphony No. 2
(d) New York Philharmonic
February 2, 1951; Carnegie Hall
    • CD: Nuova Era 2226
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 2
(e) New York Philharmonic
December 28, 1953; 30th Street Studio
    • LP: Columbia ML 5125; Columbia  DSL 200; Philips ABL 3095; Columbia (UK) GBL 5604 
    • CD: Sony (Japan) SRCR 8683; EMI CZS5751332; Theorema TH 121213; Sony (France) 5081722; Sony (UK) 517187 2; United Archives UAR004.3
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 2 (first movement rehearsal only)
(f) New York Philharmonic
December 28, 1953; 30th Street Studio
    • LP: Columbia 32786 (10")
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 2
(g) Orchestre National de la R. T. F.
May 5, 1955; Théatre des Champs-élysées
    • LP: Educational Media Associates EMA 105
    • CD: Disques Montaigne TCE 8831; Tahra TAH 587-589
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 2
(h) Columbia Symphony Orchestra
January 11 & 14, 1960; American Legion Hall
    • LP: Columbia ML 5573; Philips ABL 3342; Columbia (UK) BRG 72089; Stereo: Columbia MS 6173; Philips SABL 183; Columbia (UK) SBRG 72089
    • CD: CBS/Sony MK 42021; SMK 64471
________________________________________________________________________
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 3 in F major, Opus 90
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 3
(a) Vienna Philharmonic
May 18 & 19, 1936; Musikvereinssaal
    • 78: Victor 341 (12022/5); GM 263 (DB 2933/6)
    • CD: Koch 3-7120-2 H1;  EMI (Japan) TOCE 7761-74; andante 1973
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 3
(b) New York Philharmonic
January 28, 1951; Carnegie Hall (live broadcast)
    • Source: Private collection
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 3
(c) New York Philharmonic
December 21 & 23, 1953; 30th Street Studio
    • LP: Columbia ML 5126; Columbia DSL 200; Philips ABR 4031; Columbia (UK) BRG 5605
    • CD: Sony (Japan) SRCR 8682; Sony (France) 5081732; Sony (UK) 517187 2; United Archives UAR004.3
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 3 (first movement rehearsal only)
(d) New York Philharmonic
December 21, 1953; 30th Street Studio
    • LP: Columbia 32786 (10")
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 3
(e) Chicago Symphony Orchestra
February 1, 1956; WGN-TV Studios, Chicago (live telecast)
    • Source: Rosenthal Archives 
   
Brahms: Symphony No. 3
(f) Columbia Symphony Orchestra
January 27 & 30, 1960; American Legion Hall
    • LP: Columbia ML 5574; Philips ABR 3343; Columbia (UK) BRG 72090; Stereo: Columbia MS 6174; Philips SABL 183; Columbia (UK) SBRG 72090
    • CD: CBS/Sony MK 42022; Sony SMK 64471
 
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Brahms: Symphony No. 4 in E minor, Opus 98
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 4
(a) BBC Symphony Orchestra
May 21, 1934; Abbey Road Studio No. 1
    • 78: Victor 242 (11734/8); GM 218 (DB 2253/7)
    • CD: Koch 3-7120-2 H1; EMI (Japan) TOCE 8051-64
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 4
(b) New York Philharmonic
November 1, 1942; Carnegie Hall (live broadcast)
    • Source: Private collection
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 4
(c) New York Philharmonic
May 6, 1945; Carnegie Hall (live broadcast)
    • Source: Private collection
    
Brahms: Symphony No. 4
(d) New York Philharmonic
February 11, 1951; Carnegie Hall (live broadcast)
    • CD: Nuova Era 2303; Music & Arts CD 1090(2)
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 4
(e) New York Philharmonic
February 21, 1951; 30th Street Studio 
    • LP: Columbia ML 5127; Columbia DSL 200; Philips ABL 3008; Columbia (UK) GBL 5606
    • CD: Sony (Japan) SRCR 8684; Sony (France) 5081732; Sony (UK) 517187 2; United Archives UAR004.3
 
Brahms: Symphony No. 4
(f) Columbia Symphony Orchestra
February 2, 4, 6, 12 & 14, 1959; American Legion Hall
    • LP: Columbia ML 5439; Columbia (UK) BRG 72091; Stereo: Columbia MS 6113; Columbia (UK) SBRG 72091
    • CD: CBS/Sony MBK 44776; Sony SMK 64471
    • SACD: Sony SS 06113

瓦尔特人尽皆知那套立体声（也就是哥伦比亚交响乐团那套）勃二、勃三、勃四是6眼的，
但勃一是两眼的。

回复 shinelb 的帖子
一也是有立体声的。这是我的那套。

谢谢大家提供的资料，也就是说纽约爱乐这个是录了勃一的而且无立体声版，哥伦比亚那套是立体声的。

那么如下这一张是何时录的音？也是和纽约爱乐的，有录全吗？

按这个网站讲，ML4472和ML5127是一样的。也就是和你第一次发的图中的第四是一样的。

是1952年录的。

http://wax.fm/vinyl-lp-releases/ ... _e_minor_op_98.html

那套哥伦比亚的有立体声，也有单声道的。我有两套，一是立体声，一套是单声道。

JS和我说瓦尔特哥伦比亚那套立体声全集，
勃一是两眼的，NND，原来是骗人的。

JS和我说瓦尔特哥伦比亚那套立体声全集，
勃一是两眼的，NND，原来是骗人的。
shinelb 发表于 2011-10-29 16:20

这套的单声道的是两眼的。但其盒子和里面的booklet都是一样的。单声道是M4L 252，立体声的是M4S 615。故计这单声道是和立体声的同时发行的。

这是ML5524