这低音单元还有吗？侧边？似乎他家还有大低音单元的音箱吧！

呼之欲出的POLYMER 旗舰 MASTER

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从POLYMER 的宣言看到，POLYMER 认为本来世界上伟大的音箱比比皆是。POLYMER不是为了造个好音箱，而 ...
sigh 发表于 2013-7-7 22:29

HIFI音响并不是面向普通大众的，只是发烧友人群。而Polymer的产品是面向高端发烧友的，价格在那里摆着。而他家的产量也不会高，只要东西好，有人买了，周围一群人听了，再口口相传 ，也足够他活了。


Polymer的生存方式就是：1。可以定制生产   2。直销

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从POLYMER 的宣言看到，POLYMER 认为本来世界上伟大的音箱比比皆是。POLYMER不是为了造个好音箱，而是给用户提供一能享受终生的音乐重放系统。 设计产品的初衷或者说出发点 目前 来说是“至高无上的。其每一个规格，都是在一定的空间环境下，为满足一定要求下的旗舰版。Polymer Audio Research we are only interested in exploring the very edge of the art at the limits of current technology.

that will provide a lifetime of musical enjoyment and a level of refinement that it will never cease to amaze again and again.

The product that will occupy your room is a loudspeaker that is built with such high level of quality that it will withstand a lifetime of faithful service and deliver the same performance a decade from now as it did when you first bought it.

但是， POLYMER 宣布其LOGIC系列 停产了，仅定售LOGIC MK2 和 MASTER ，经营方式耐人寻味。 POLYMER 不打算开发普罗大众的产品，销量上不去，估计广告宣传也不好说。看看现在能够走远的产品都需要在各类音响杂志的广告窗上不停的挂着才行。能走到哪， 拭目以待..........

回复 djtjdjtj 的帖子您好。还在用，给电视机伴音。不过高音是OW4，不是黄金高音，可能您记错了。至于H1305与ETON的对比，如果后级超级NB，自然ETON更HIFI一些。一般的后级，还是SEAS靠谱。


   

POLYMER 的运营有点定制的味道，估计量不会大。钻石单元的成本在所用单元中的比例比较突出。POLYMER 在 其LOGIC 的升级版本LOGIC MK 2中对其钻石中音描述是其振膜（锥盆）100%钻石，并不是仅仅防尘帽采用了钻石，或者仅仅锥盆一部分采用钻石。(not just diamond dust or particles, but a solid, 100% pure diamond cone）。再者， 定制的话，如果分频采用杜兰电容，成本上会明显升高。
拿POLYMER LOGIC MK 2 来说， 要价 接近25万元人民币 （出厂价不含运费关税），其一对铍高音， 一对钻石中音， 2 对 AT 10 C77  KAP 价格仅仅占个零头。最大的成本还是加工设计。
而呼之而出的大泡沫，机械加工成本会更高。

有个论坛分析了Polymer的箱体和其他HIEND对比: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=108383.0Polymer 说自家的Logic音箱是物超所值的，理由是：音箱零售价： $24,990，但是所有单元价格加起来是$27,940，
高音Supravox TG1：$430*2，
低音proprietary woofers：$595*4   
中音Thiel & Partner Diamond Code Midrange：$12,350*2

难以置信，一个中音单元要1万2千多美元一个。做生意谁都不会做赔本的。这个钻石中音单元厂家批发价格和零售价差多少，就不好说了。
不过Andra2的单元成本是在是太低了，那个年月单拿的T330才$325一个么？

一般HiEND级别的多路音箱都在2万美元以上，但是整个物料成本并不高：
比如：
Peak Consult Zoltan - MRSP 34,995/pair
Tweeter - ScanSpeak Soft Dome with SD-2 magnet - approximately $200
Midrange - AudioTechnology 5" midrange - approximately $275
Woofer - AudioTechnology 7” woofer - approximately $500 each x 2
Total cost of drivers per pair = $2950

Joseph Audio Pearl - MRSP 23,500/pair
Tweeter – Seas Millennium - approximately $185
Midrange – Seas Excel 7” Magnesium Cone w/Copper Phase Plug - approximately $165
Woofer – Seas Excel 8” Magnesium Cone w/Copper Phase Plug – approximately $190 x 2
Total cost of drivers per pair = $1460

Wilson Audio Watt Puppy - MSRP 27,900/pair
Tweeter – Focal Tioxid Dome - approximately $100
Midrange - Scan Speak Carbon Fiber 6.5” – approximately $150
Woofers – Dynaudio 9” (21W-54)* - approximately $150 each x 2
Total cost of drivers per pair = $1100
*(Dynaudio no longer supplies drivers to the loudspeaker industry; however, they continue to supply a few manufacturers with whom they had a previous relationship)

Eggleston Works Andra 2 - MSRP 19,500/pair
Tweeter – Dyaudio Esotar – approximately $325
Midrange – Morel 6” MW166 - approximately $105 each x 2
Woofer – Dynaudio 12” – approximately $200 each x 2
Total cost of drivers per pair = $1870


Avalon Eidolon Vision - MSRP 23,950/pair
Tweeter – Accuton 1” C12 Ceramic Dome – approximately $190
Midrange – Accuton 3.5” C90 Ceramic – approximately $280
Woofer – Eton 11” Hexacone – approximately $275
Total cost of drivers per pair = $1490

Verity Audio Sarastro - MSRP 29,995/pair
Tweeter – Raven R1 – approximately $250
Midrange – AudioTechnology 6” midrange – approximately $390
Woofer – AudioTechnology 11” woofer – approximately $550
Total cost of drivers per pair = $2380

天蝎星该彻底走下神坛了
David 发表于 2013-7-3 12:30

DAVID兄好久不见.你的ATD SEAS 黄金高音音箱还在用吗
不知道H1305比起ETON的差远不.

还真有人想弄铝块雕成的音箱.去附近的铝加工厂让弄一对吧.
还有一个折中的办法,就是用木做框架,几个面用铝板,不用MDF,铝板不要用太大的,A3到A4大小.这样做出来的箱体也会比MDF好很多

看看这篇文章，箱子是：Polymer Logic Loudspeakers 零售报价：$24,990
看照片，好像是密闭箱体的。中高音单元不认识，分频器用料也不懂，哪位高手给说说？
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue34/polymer_logic.htm
Specs:
Nominal impedance: 5 ohms (minimum impedance 4.1 ohms)
Woofer: Two 7' vapor deposited titanium
Midrange: One 2.5' diamond cone
Tweeter: One 1' gold coated titanium dome
Sensitivity: 91dB @ 1 watt (2.0V at 1 meter)
Minimum amplifier power: 12 WPC
Frequency response: 30Hz – 40kHz
System weight: 285 lbs each tower
Approximate shipping weight: 820 lbs for complete system
Height: 48.75” (including supplied supports)
Width: 13”
Depth: 15”
Price: $24,990/pr

完全去除箱体的谐振并不难，声音也未必理想。难的是利用好箱体谐振。全金属的箱子早就出现过，声音过于僵硬，所以市场反应不好，也就没有人搞了，现在又搞起来了，呵呵呵

FIM  发表于 3 分钟前

纯金属箱体，箱体共振应该很小吧？声音应该很干净了


这个箱体如果能DIY，真有兴趣搞一对