昨晚东艺，杜达梅尔带洛杉矶爱乐上演马勒第六。听后非常失望，整体水平和他的名声不符。上回维也纳爱乐我以为是乐团那帮老油条不听他的指挥棒，现在看来是他的能力问题。涉及德奥的曲目，几乎是完全找不对节奏，和声也完全没有感觉。如果柏林爱乐选他，基本可以搬出德国了。就德奥而言，上次慕尼黑爱乐到上响新厅带来的临时工小指挥Andris Poga都远比他更有资格候选。
今晚演德九，估计会好些。不过我已没有兴趣再去了。

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我一个朋友，昨晚也听了，说小杜的马六好到他多年收集的名盘都白听了，现场空气被杜凝结了，谢幕长达十五分钟。

你俩的话，我信谁的？

我是不去听，听老法师们的唱片更好。小杜不可能比前辈的老法师好，能挨上边就不错了。


   

我也去了，说不上喜欢与否，仅是听音乐而已。比上交之类当然好很多，我也容易满足。

另外，不认识什么人，倒是在入口处看到了陈燮阳。

今晚准备听听的蓝光盘，小贾维的，看他如何表现。

哈哈，看来上海指挥界的头面人物都被他吸引过去了！ 不过我一直认为杜的成功仅是商业运作的结果，其真实水平确实不是很高。我想柏林爱乐是不可能选择他的。

这下可有说头了，好啊！
交响曲演奏被如此议论，在其他地方并不多见，在这里也不很经常。
无论如何，谢谢各位老烧的各种看法，多交流音乐会和唱片的听感！

海丁克指挥芝加哥的马勒第六，杜达梅尔和洛杉矶爱乐的马勒第六我都听了，都在香港文化中心。

总的来说，音色完美上，洛杉矶不可能跟芝加哥相比的。不过洛杉矶声音粗矿，这在当今世界各大乐团趋同化的背景下，是一种很难得的个性，也是我在香港文化中心觉得音量最饱满的一次，很让人血脉喷张热血沸腾，个人还是很喜欢的，呵呵。

海丁克芝加哥那次实在太完美了，是我这辈子听过最棒的音乐会，没有之一，至今难忘！

大熊和柏林爱乐2015年1月的演出，上半场李斯特和亨策的管弦乐作品各一首，下半场“英雄”。

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大熊和柏林爱乐2015年1月的演出，上半场李斯特和亨策的管弦乐作品各一首，下半场“英雄”。

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scfan 发表于 2015-4-1 13:26

多谢分享。正在听。《英雄》第一乐章可够乱套的……

在“The Classical Commentator”上看到对大熊接手柏林爱乐可能性的两篇评论，观点相左。
其一：
We’re getting ever closer to the Berlin Philharmonic’s vote for their next principal conductor on May 11th. Right now, it’s probably safe to say that the most discussed candidate for the job is Christian Thielemann. From the moment Simon Rattle announced he’d be leaving in 2018, speculation that Thielemann will be his successor has been widespread. Thielemann is in the middle of a very successful reign with the Staatskapelle Dresden, and as a German, he has unmissable connections with the Berliners.

But I’m less than fully enthused about the idea. True, Thielemann has been splendid in some of the central Germanic repertoire, certainly in a much more traditional sense than Rattle. Thielemann would undoubtedly be a throwback, which is why many who miss the Karajan years want to see him land the job. All the same, isn’t his repertoire a bit limited? He doesn’t have experience outside of the German classics, and it’s hard to imagine him becoming a champion of Mahler, Sibelius, Stravinsky, and Shostakovich, to list a few of the composers the orchestra has performed to great acclaim under Rattle. If the Berliners think Thielemann has special things to say in Beethoven, Brahms, Bruckner, or Strauss, why not invite him to record cycles on their new label without giving him the reigns? Frankly, I worry that Thielemann isn’t charismatic or forward-looking enough for the job. Innovation has been a prime ingredient in Rattle’s tenure, and to see the orchestra narrow its repertoire would be disappointing.

If Thielemann lands the job, I’ll follow him with great enthusiasm. It just seems that other conductors are more suited. Stay tuned and feel free to join in the discussion.

其二
Have no fear, it won’t be Thielemann the Berliners choose. They are not stupid and nor is he. He has gone on the record to say that when he and the Dresden orchestra first made music together, it was a complete meeting of minds. Their devotion to him is absolute. He has already exercised his considerable influence to get rid of a chief executive (Serge Dorny) who threatened to interfere in matters of artistic policy, and he has a first-rate opera house at his disposal whenever he desires a break from purely symphonic concerts. The Berliners are not likely to choose anybody who has repeatedly picked fights with management when he hasn’t got his own way. Nuremberg, Deutsche Oper Berlin and the Munich Philharmonic could say a lot about a man who calls the tune even though he doesn’t pay the piper.

Of course the Berliners want to work with all the leading conductors of the age and Thielemann is one of them – he knows more about Beethoven, Brahms, Bruckner and Richard Strauss than Rattle will ever know about the rest of the orchestral repertory. But it is only respect that binds them together in concerts, nothing deeper than that. The beaming that you can see on the faces of the players when Kirill Petrenko conducts them, for instance, is entirely absent in the case of Thielemann.

我还是同意其一的观点，毕竟他的演绎范围太狭窄。

顺着观点一再讨论，在柏林爱乐团员们的心目中，Sibelius, Stravinsky, Shostakovich 和 Beethoven, Brahms, Bruckner, R.Strauss 的地位孰轻孰重？基本上就能看出下一届人选了。客座指挥来撸几个全集录音或者演出？为什么不把主菜请回家里常驻，再临时请客座来演Sibelius, Stravinsky, Shostakovich呢？至于马勒，那是另外一说。至少我听过的顶级布鲁克纳大师演马勒没有不是顶级的。假以时日吧。

和阿巴多半休养半玩的琉森音乐节不一样，Simon Rattle去LSO仍然是全职，并不是退休，如果柏林爱乐乐团很重视Sibelius, Stravinsky, Shostakovich的话，何必要换人。

乐团选择了大熊执棒一月份阿巴多逝世一周年前后的祭奠音乐会，演出了三场英雄和三场德语安魂曲。本身已很说明问题。